Jonesing over Wordpress 2.7
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Drupal people: get some coffee, grab a seat, log out of IRC, and find 16 minutes to watch this video. Wordpress is leading the way in terms of posting and administering content, and we'd better be taking notes. The bits that I'm particularly jonesing over are the drag and drop widgets, the content administration dashboard, and the instant installation of plugins and themes.

My favorite quote from the video:

I think that people ... downloading things to their computer and uploading them to a server is completely worthless. You're a fake bottleneck.

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thanks for including my

thanks for including my video from yesterday - a link would be good too :)

i totally agree - when i look at that admin interface, then return to my drupal admin, i am always disappointed... but it's clear that wordpress puts time and money into the interface while drupal does not.

Jump to 5:30

Jump to 5:30 to skip to the dashboard demo.

check out the Habari interface as well

Cool! The Drupal admin interface needs some web2.0 love, especially when given to not so very techy content editors.

Also check out this Habari interface video... I've been meaning to post this, but haven't gotten around to it: http://binarybonsai.com/interfacing-habari

That's even more impressive

That's even more impressive than the WP demo!

- Growl style notifications
- Hot key drop down nav menu
- Tear up message history at bottom of page
- Scrollable timeline sorting, dragging, endpoint dragging
- Color coded content states
- Mac style search bar
- Stateless ajax pages (which allows all the growl style notifications and page updates)

Add this to the Drupal wishlist

The Wordpress guys really have their stuff together. It's easier for them to be focused since their target is so small in terms of capabilities, but I still think everything they're doing is extremely cool - especially with addons.

Plugin Manager

While the Wordpress version is very polished, there is now a plugin manager for Drupal 6 which works in a similar way (but requiring the ftp password where Wordpress seems to (but may not) go off the user password).

Saying that, some of the polish/wizadry is brilliant.

Dies ist ein toller beitrag

Dies ist ein toller beitrag

Drupalism as an ideological obstacle

Come on guys (Drupallers) give up your Drupalisms (Definition: http://www.nicklewis.org/node/979) and have a fresh look and think how thinks done by WP / Habari and raise Drupal above all

Wordpress not a CMS?

I always had maintained that Wordpress was only a blogging application, if you will, a subset of a CMS. However, ever since Wordpress 2.6 I've had a different perspective where I'm convinced Wordpress is setting its sights higher. What's interesting is that new versions of Wordpress is almost always backwards compatible.

I can think of a number of Drupal contributed modules with functionality similar to Wordpress 2.6/2.7. Perhaps, what really needs to be reconsidered is how Drupal releases are packaged. I've always thought some differing installation profiles along with the required contributed modules could be included in a Drupal package (as opposed to just the core). Let's face it, Wordpress 2.7 wouldn't be exciting if the new functionality was not in WP core but in a third-party plug-in.

Block administration

The drag and drop blocks (in Drupal jargon) that Matt demos in this video are mindblowing. Block administration is an example of Drupal at its usability worst -- blocks appear on pages, so why should you need to leave a page, go to the block admin area to add it, then go back to that page to see the block in action.... and that's as an admin. Non-admin users can't even add their own blocks unless MultiBlock is installed or you give them full "administer blocks" permission, and then the blocks are limited to whatever input filters the user has permissions on.

The ability for users to create their own blocks (from a list of predefined types, natch) and drop them where they want them on their pages as this video illustrates would be a *killer* feature for Drupal. And as an admin, I'd love to be able to define what kinds of things (RSS feeds, meebo, related posts, etc.) could appear as user-created blocks, and then _not have to get involved_ when one of my users wants to put one of these things on one or more of her pages.

Nice to see the appreciation

Nice to see the appreciation of WordPress from a Drupal perspective. Sometimes it feels like you can't even mention - in the Drupal universe - that WP does something better, because then you're always getting the "Drupal is not WordPress" talk sooner or later, which is frustrating.

The WordPress people are doing some fantastic user-centric stuff, where as the Drupal people (especially some of the core developers) are doing developer-centric stuff and sometime it seems they can't even imagine things from a user perspective.

It's not about turning Drupal into WordPress, it's just about admitting what they're good at and what they're doing right, and apply that to Drupal.

In Summary

So we see in the video....

- Drag & drop admin block elements with layout reconfiguration (not just collapsing as in D6)
- Hidden collapsible checkbox settings
- Complex content sorting
- In admin in place comment replies
- In admin plugin search, ratings, update notification, download & install through FTP
- Up front plugin admin page as first class link in left nav

I miss anything?

Drupal making progress

http://zivtech.com/blog/drag-and-drop-content-ordering

-Rob

Yes great video i guess, the

Yes great video i guess, the chap in the video needs to get off Caffine and sign on at ToastMasters for atleast 3 years before he should be allowed to speak to the public like this. Absolute horrendous presentation to say the least. Unless the audience is people in basements doing Linux command line no one will get a word of what this chap is mummbling terrible.

Online REVIEW about WP 2.7

btw, you can just try wp 2.7 on my blog: wp.blogywalkie.com. Use "test" as your password and username

this is very new, wp2.7 on my blog is prototype version. only few blogger has coppy of it,

include me. check it out guys!!!!

I think Drupal will get

I think Drupal will get better in time. It hasn't REALLY been around for that long. Wordpress was built from the beginning with end users in mind while drupal was originally created by developers and for developers. Only recently has the end user really become a significant factor in Drupal. I think it will only improve from here on out.

i totally agree - when i

i totally agree - when i look at that admin interface, then return to my drupal admin, i am always disappointed... but it's clear that wordpress puts time and money into the interface while drupal does not.

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